How to export 'Octagon Bevel' and 'Diamond Bevel' to OOXML

Regina Henschel rb.henschel at
Mon Apr 18 23:32:23 UTC 2022

Hi Miklos,

there is some progress in the meantime.

moves "Octagon Bevel" and "Diamond Bevel" to the custGeom area for 
export. I think that this step is definitely necessary.

Miklos Vajna schrieb am 13.04.2022 um 08:41:
> Hi Regina,
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 02:08:47PM +0200, Regina Henschel <rb.henschel at> wrote:
>> I have created a similar shape in OOXML including handle and guides, see
>> attachment. The handle is correct in PowerPoint, but our import of
>> <custGeom> doesn't get the handle correctly.
>> And saving then to pptx again, will loose the handle because then it is not
>> known, that the shape comes from our preset and the general export methods
>> for ooxml-non-primitive are used, which cannot export handles at all.
>> Export handles for 'Octagon Bevel' and 'Diamond Bevel' nevertheless? Or
>> export them with guides (needed in PP for text area rectangle) and shading,
>> but without handles?
> Hmm, that's an interesting trade-off. :-)
> If I understand correctly, you need guides to be able to render
> unchanged text at the correct text area rectangle.

Currently the text area is calculated from the static (current state of 
the handles) shape. That results in values relative to the viewBox. But 
OOXML needs them relative to the shape width and height. For this change 
guides are needed. They are currently generated accordingly, independent 
of any guides in the shape, and used to write the <a:rect> element in 
OOXML. The text is then at the correct position and it is editable after 
reopening. That works for all export cases which use custGeom. It will 
have to be changed when general guide/handle export is implemented at 
some point.

  And you need handles
> to be able to edit the shape easily.

Handles and their related guides are needed, if you want to change the 
geometry of the shape in MS Office. But because of the previously (Apr 
12) noted problems, I would prefer not to export the handle of "Octagon 
Bevel" and "Diamond Bevel" and only export the current state of the 

  If we have to choose between
> correct rendering and easy editing, I would go for correct rendering of
> the unchanged shape.

It is not really clear what kind of rendering is "correct". Please have 
a look at bug "Rendering of shape 'Octagon Bevel' is faulty"
and its follow-up
"Replace 'Octagon Bevel' and 'Diamond Bevel' with similar shapes 
suitable for export to OOXML"

The appearance we currently get (without any patch) cannot be exported 
to OOXML, if we want, that it remains to be a shape. And when reopening 
the file the shape will have different shading than before saving, if we 
not change 'Octagon Bevel' and 'Diamond Bevel' to an OOXML-compatible 
shape at the same time.

The alternative would be to export the shape not as a shape but as an 
image. For what purpose are these bevel-shapes used? Likely for giving a 
frame to a text. And then text and background should be still editable 
after roundtrip. That is my opinion. So for me export as image would be 
the worse solution.

Kind regards,

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