plz Improve this outdated and not thought trough installer / if possible libreoffice light

[Mike Kaganski]

Hi,

On 11.09.2024 1:32, T N wrote:
> i am installing lo on one of my machines, i dont have a lot of space left [image 2024-09-10 22_06_35-Window ] so i deay i only want calc and write and no draw impress and never base (who uses this crapware stuck in the 90s anywhay?)

1. There used to be an option to avoid installation of some components 
on Windows - before version 4.2. But that was not what you might 
imagine: LibreOffice is a monolithic suite, not something composed of 
several separate applications; and e.g. graphical elements that you see 
in Writer and Calc - like rectangles or images - are implemented in the 
code of Draw, which itself stares 90+% of code with Impress. Writer's 
very much used "Mail Merge" and "Bibliography" functionalities are 
implemented using Base code. So that should answer your "who uses this" 
not-thought-through claim phrased as a "question". They are used much, 
not only directly (you might take a look at Ask LibreOffice site to see 
many Base-related questions), but also indirectly, as shown. So - 
removing Base was only possible by skipping its launcher and disabling 
its start menu, but it still included all the code - which resulted in 
net savings of a few kilobytes. And at the same time, that resulted in 
broken functionality in places where users didn't expect - which led to 
the decision to drop this option in 4.2 [1].

Note that on Linux, most distros still have full modularity, and even 
not install Base by default - which keeps the flow of the 
hard-to-understand-for-users problem solving request on the mentioned 
Ask site, and bug reports, too.

To summarize this: no, this need not be brought back.

> so i was not very happy when i found no way to deselect this components, all i got was this:
>
> [image 2024-09-10 22_06_07-LibreOffice 24.2.6.2 - Installation Wizard ]
>
> not much to deselect there that would help with space consumtion. So if possible let us deselect whole applications like base, impress and draw!
>
> also this question is not very well thought trough
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> [image 2024-09-10 22_06_58-Window ]
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> or do you seriously belive that someone would like to set the default action to all exept to doc and rtf files and would rather keep editing them in wordpad. I know how that was thought up, only check what is not associated by others as default. but you may should think again and make an exaption for wordpad!

RTF is very much obsolete file format - its development discontinued by 
its author (Microsoft) in 2009, which means it doesn't get all the newer 
features available in their later releases. Same for DOC. And it makes 
no sense to promote their use as the primary file formats. Windows 
provides very handy "always open using this app" way of associating any 
file type with a chosen program, so I see no need to expand the list of 
associations that we should do in the installer.

But you are welcome anyway to file your requests as feature requests to 
the bug tracker [2].


[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2#Installer_(Windows_only)

[2] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/


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Best regards,

Mike Kaganski