Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2024-Sep-19

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Thu Sep 19 13:23:48 UTC 2024


Present: Sahil, Rafael, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Eyal, Cor, Regina

Tickets/Topics

  * Sidebar panel character deck/tab doesn't allow switching / indicate
    language groups
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153991
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153992
    + we should avoid bloating the sidebar (Heiko)
    + not against (Rafael)
    + most controls are in the toolbar as well, we probably need to
      implement it as a customizable UNO command (Sahil)
    + should be only available if CTL/CJK is checked (Rafael, Heiko)
    + could be realized per dropdown before the font listbox although
      it takes some space
    + unclear what switching could mean; isn't it recognized from
      the character language only? (Heiko)
    => go for it

  * Add "Source Sans Pro" to fallback font list for "Aptos"
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162872
    + Source Sans Pro not bundled anymore, bug 136604,
      Metrics are nowhere near equivalent (Stuart)
      + bundling not needed (Regina)
    + decent similarity (Eyal, Cor, Regina)
    + not a good alternative yet we need some fallback (Rafael)
    => let's do it until we have a better alternative

  * UI : allow Alt + left / right to change width of panes as Navigator
    and Styles and formatting
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62954
    + rather drop hard-coded resizing of splitter, see bug 146906 (Heiko)
    + not aware of any place where alt+arrow change the splitter; and
      alt+left/right and top/down changes cell size in Calc (although
      not when the Stylist/Navigator is in focus) (Heiko)
    + key sequence interaction would be nice; maybe as extension (Sahil)
    + no use case, maybe accessibility? (Heiko)
    => pass over to a11y

  * UI Field  "Copy sort results to" in dialog Sort, tab options, missing
    button/does not allow shrinking
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113247
    + Range dropdown not labelled (Eyal)
    + whether range or address, the target is filled with the source -
      changing this is not beneficial (Heiko)
    + going with a true range rather than a plain address opens
      Pandora's box (Rafael)
    + needs to be converted to a ref dialog; shrink button can be limited
      to single cells (Rafael)
    + keep range? some users might use it (Rafael, Heiko)
    + add label "Start cell: [     ] <shrink> from: <range>"
      + if too large, just "At" would be good (Heiko)
      + or without labels or in two lines (Rafael)
    => do it
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