[Openicc] List Scope

[Bob Friesenhahn]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Graeme Gill wrote:
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> 1) I wouldn't call the discussions "low level" (apart perhaps
>    from Robert cross posting some Gimp specific setup details).

Dithering algorithms for ink dots on paper are low level.

> 2) This is usually a very quiet list, so I can't see how you think
>    other discussions are being "drowned out".

I agree that the list is usually quiet.  It is a clear problem is that 
there is insufficent representation here from people outside of 
hard-core color science and printing.  It is quite excellent that you 
are here, yet it is also unfortunate that the type of people who would 
bring your excellent work to the "common man" don't seem to be here 
any more, or perhaps they are not really heard (Kai-Uwe?).  It is not 
sufficient that color management is supported by specific applications 
since color management needs to be ingrained in the system using 
standard mechanisms and well supported throughout all applications 
which use color.

The freedesktop organization is organized in order to try to extract 
some commonality from otherwise competing groups while recognizing 
that all groups are important according to their own measure of 
success.  Visit http://www.freedesktop.org/ to see what it is all 
about.  Check out the list of standards and software.  I notice that 
Oyranos is listed in the Software section, but Argyll and Little CMS 
are not mentioned.  While it is likely that some listed specifications 
include interfaces necessary to support color management, I do not 
see a specification from this group listed to provide a standard way 
to provide color management in the freedesktop environment.

> 3) I imagine that the discussions is just about to peter out. I was
>    going to take a look at adding some tools in Argyll to address
>    printer calibration. I guess if I make some progress in this
>    area I'll stick to announcing it on the Argyll mailing list.

That would be going too far the other way.  It is a problem that color 
management is too balkanized already.  We need more discussion of how 
to incorporate color management so that it is readily available to 
users so that open source can usefully compete with Microsoft Windows 
and Apple's OS-X.

Bob
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Bob Friesenhahn
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GraphicsMagick Maintainer,    http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/