[poppler] pdftohtml : enhancing it to use embedded fonts

[Leonard Rosenthol]

Sorry about being vague, but it's an area that I can't directly comment on.  Let's just say that I am aware of multiple cases where font foundries have sued software vendors around this particular issue. Of course, it may simply be the "big target" consideration as well - and folks like you will fly under the radar.


Concerning patents and IP around PDF - you have no issues there.  As an ISO standard, PDF was vetted according to the ISO rules for such things and Adobe made sure all of our patents in this area were released accordingly.   There is a document on our site if you want to see this in writing.

Leonard

-----Original Message-----
From: poppler-bounces+leonardr=adobe.com at lists.freedesktop.org [mailto:poppler-bounces+leonardr=adobe.com at lists.freedesktop.org] On Behalf Of Albert Astals Cid
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:49 AM
To: poppler at lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [poppler] pdftohtml : enhancing it to use embedded fonts

A Monday, June 06, 2011, Leonard Rosenthol va escriure:
> Again, in the US - that's not the case.  

Leonard, i generally appreciate your input, but you are borderline FUDing 
here, you state "this is not the case", and then you say "IANAL", so how can 
you know this is not the case?

> The software producer is also at risk.

So the US law forbids you to do things because they might be used illegaly? 
Do you guys forbid the fabrication of knives? That are used to kill people?
Do you guys forbid the fabrication of computers? That are used to create 
illegal software?
Do you guys forbid the fabrication of Windows? That is used to create virii?

I can see millions of cases where extracting the font of a PDF is not illegal, 
so the fact that it could be should not matter, moreover if we follow those 
useless bits some smart person in Adobe decided to add to "protect" the PDF 
files.

> 
> But IANAL and you should certainly consult with one before pursing this
> direction.  IMO...

Really? Come on, I'm sure you could find millions of patents we invalidate in 
poppler just be implementing the PDF spec and now you tell us to consult a 
lawyer? Anyway I'm not the one that's going to code that so i'm not worried at 
all :D

Albert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: poppler-bounces+leonardr=adobe.com at lists.freedesktop.org
> [mailto:poppler-bounces+leonardr=adobe.com at lists.freedesktop.org] On
> Behalf Of Albert Astals Cid Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:33 AM
> To: poppler at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: [poppler] pdftohtml : enhancing it to use embedded fonts
> 
> A Monday, June 06, 2011, Leonard Rosenthol va escriure:
> > I can tell you very clearly that at least in the United States, doing
> > this is a CLEAR violation of font copyright law.  It's even more clear
> > if you do any format conversion that's VERY MUCH a violation.
> 
> In any case it would be a violation done by our users not for us, so as I
> said we shouldn't worry about that (other than adding the occasional
> warning).
> 
> Albert
> 
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