[poppler] PDF 2.0 Spec

Albert Astals Cid aacid at kde.org
Wed Nov 7 21:35:12 UTC 2018


El dimecres, 7 de novembre de 2018, a les 17:52:46 CET, Tobias Deiminger va escriure:
> Hi,
> 
> Am 07.11.2018 07:03 schrieb Adam Reichold:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Am 06.11.18 um 23:40 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
> >> As said by Tobias on a merge request, at some point we'll probably 
> >> start seeing bugs because of features used in PDF 2.0 that we don't 
> >> support.
> >> 
> >> TBH i've no idea if Adobe products support it right now, but i guess 
> >> they eventually will.
> >> 
> >> Problem is in typical ISO fashion the spec is not freely available.
> >> 
> >> Also as typical it is relatively easy to find a draft spec on their 
> >> own website
> >> https://www.pdfa.org/wp-content/until2016_uploads/2016/04/2016-02-15_ISO-32000-2_DIS_3.pdf
> >> 
> >> Which given it's freely available on the internet I have only to guess 
> >> it's fine to download.
> >> 
> >> But of course it's a draft so one would not want to use it as 
> >> definitive answer.
> > 
> > But isn't this somewhat true even for the final version? Meaning that 
> > it
> > will never be the definite answer as we will always look at other
> > implementations or decide on our own that a document maybe formally
> > incorrect or outright broken, but we still want to support it because
> > our users want us to?
> 
> We can support "broken" documents, that's fine imo. Additionally, if we 
> have the standard at hand, we can cite some place and tell the bug 
> reporter "please give your composer vendor a hint to fix it at their 
> side too", just to improve the world a little bit:) We also want to 
> implement new features, poppler is not really complete in that sense. 
> There the standard should be the definite source of truth, and some of 
> us will eventually need it.
> 
> >> At this point the only answer I have is, I guess we could convince the 
> >> KDE e.V. or the GNOME Foundation to sponsor the Euros to someone that 
> >> really wants to read the document (and has a track record of 
> >> contributing to poppler).
> 
> Sounds good. Maybe we could get some more copies? ISO says "We can grant 
> extensions to your original single-user licence so you can make more 
> copies to share at work." [0] Out of curiosity I'm going to ask at DIN 
> e.V. (the ISO deputy in my case) what would be the pricing for say 2..5 
> users in an open source project. Then KDE e.V./GNOME Foundation can 
> decide if and how much they could sponsor, and we can decide if we put 
> private money into it. Are you ok with that?

Asking is free :)

> 
> Cheers Tobias
> 
> [0] 
> https://www.iso.org/files/live/sites/isoorg/files/store/en/PUB100206.pdf
> 
> > Interested organizations (I am thinking for example of public
> > administrations) might also directly commission people to implement
> > various functions from the standard and provide access to these
> > documents but keep the ownership of the license so that it is not bound
> > to a single person.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Adam
> > 
> >> Cheers,
> >>   Albert
> >> 
> >> 
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