[systemd-devel] right way to log to rsyslog/syslog only?

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 08/07/2014 07:32 PM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote:
>
> On Aug 7, 2014 9:11 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson <johannbg at gmail.com 
> <mailto:johannbg at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Arguably one of journals major/only shortcoming compared to what's 
> out there is it's lack the ability to send syslog messages over the 
> syslog network protocol but I think it's just a matter of time until 
> it does, since it's arguably unavoidable ( think for example 
> containers here and I would be amazed if submitted patches would be 
> rejected that would add that )
>
> Yes, it has been mentioned a couple of times that dealing with the 
> various syslog protocols is the job of a syslogd, not the journal.
>
> (That said, there already are some tools to push raw journal messages 
> over the network...)
>

Raw journals or journal only solution is not acceptable in large 
environment using mixed OS and or even just mixed Linux distributions 
and their releases ( think debian stable and centos7 for example )  so 
it's necessary for journal to be able to "forward" the logs over the 
syslog network protocol

> >
> > But I guess you can hack yourself around that shortcoming by turning 
> off persistent storage ( that is if you dont want to store logs as 
> well on the host ) and run something like
> >
> > journalctl  -o short -f  | nc <ip> -u 514 -w 1
> >
> > that avoids the problem having two "loggers" running on the same 
> host  ( like using syslog-ng or rsyslog alongside journal ) to solve 
> that particular problem.
>
> I don't understand why running two programs that provide distinct 
> functions is called a problem.
>

Host resources

> I also don't understand why running *three* programs (journald, 
> journalctl, netcat) that only do a halfassed job compared to rsyslog 
> *isn't* a problem anymore...
>

You do realize what I proposed was a workaround right?

JBG
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