Thoughts about decoration information in the xdg_shell

Thiago Macieira thiago.macieira at
Sun Nov 17 23:47:41 PST 2013

On segunda-feira, 18 de novembro de 2013 08:20:37, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> I'm afraid that exactly that will happen then and I think it's the shell's 
> responsibility to enforce the style. For things like Plasma Active or other 
> tiling setups we need to have the client without decorations. Our users
> will not consider it as an application bug, it's a bug in our system. I
> might be overly skeptical here, but my experience unfortunately is, that
> apps and toolkits (exception Qt) do not try to integrate with the
> environment.

Understood, but discussion on IRC shows that other toolkits do not want to add 
the feature and that Kristian does not want to make it mandatory either. 
You're the losing voice here, Martin.

Do the best you can for kwin and Qt will help you. If other applications look 
out of place, we'll have to do our best to get users to report the issues as 

If you're right about your decision, other toolkits will eventually come 
around and implement similar functionality. If you're wrong, then they will 
keep doing what they're doing.

Also note that there's another way of solving the problem: clients continue to 
decorate by themselves, but the clients somehow find the information describing 
what they should decorate with. That means you get the consistency *and* the 
performance of client-side decorations. I believe the forum for that 
discussion is the xdg mailing list.

Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT)
  Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
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