Window positions under wayland

Igor Korot ikorot01 at
Fri Aug 5 20:24:32 UTC 2022

Hi, Samuel,

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 3:21 PM samuel ammonius <sfammonius at> wrote:
> I don't understand what all the talk is about when discussing whether
> it should be up to the compositor or app to set a window's position.

Right now under Wayland ONLY the compositor decides the position
where the window is created.

No exceptions.

Thank you.

> On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 2:30 PM Daniel Stone <daniel at> wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 at 17:21, Igor Korot <ikorot01 at> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 9:20 PM Thiago Macieira <thiago at> wrote:
>> > > No, they are about position too. 100,100 on a 1920x1080 resolution is about 5%
>> > > to the right of the left edge and 10% from the top. 100,100 on 3840x2160 is
>> > > 2.5% from the left and 5% from the top, on the same monitor. The user has a
>> > > right to expect the same finger-width position on the screen, relative to where
>> > > their eyes are looking at.
>> >
>> > No, they are not.
>> > It should be up to the application to decide the coordinate system PPI/DPI/etc.
>> This is why there is no value in this discussion. You are making
>> assertions like this as if they are axiomatic.
>> It would be possible to redesign Wayland following the principles you
>> have described. No-one is doing this, however. We have carefully
>> considered the points you have raised over the past 14 years and
>> reached different conclusions. I'm sorry that Wayland is not the
>> perfect window system you envisage in your own head, but just
>> repeating your same beliefs that the design is fundamentally flawed
>> over and over, will not force us to change the design.

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