Window positions under wayland

[samuel ammonius]

(I accidentally sent that without finishing it. Just ignore it)

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 5:54 PM Igor Korot <ikorot01 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Samuel,
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 3:21 PM samuel ammonius <sfammonius at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I don't understand what all the talk is about when discussing whether
> > it should be up to the compositor or app to set a window's position.
>
> Right now under Wayland ONLY the compositor decides the position
> where the window is created.
> Always!!
>
> No exceptions.
>
> Thank you.
>
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 2:30 PM Daniel Stone <daniel at fooishbar.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 at 17:21, Igor Korot <ikorot01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 9:20 PM Thiago Macieira <thiago at kde.org>
> wrote:
> >> > > No, they are about position too. 100,100 on a 1920x1080 resolution
> is about 5%
> >> > > to the right of the left edge and 10% from the top. 100,100 on
> 3840x2160 is
> >> > > 2.5% from the left and 5% from the top, on the same monitor. The
> user has a
> >> > > right to expect the same finger-width position on the screen,
> relative to where
> >> > > their eyes are looking at.
> >> >
> >> > No, they are not.
> >> > It should be up to the application to decide the coordinate system
> PPI/DPI/etc.
> >>
> >> This is why there is no value in this discussion. You are making
> >> assertions like this as if they are axiomatic.
> >>
> >> It would be possible to redesign Wayland following the principles you
> >> have described. No-one is doing this, however. We have carefully
> >> considered the points you have raised over the past 14 years and
> >> reached different conclusions. I'm sorry that Wayland is not the
> >> perfect window system you envisage in your own head, but just
> >> repeating your same beliefs that the design is fundamentally flawed
> >> over and over, will not force us to change the design.
>
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