Window positions under wayland

samuel ammonius sfammonius at
Fri Aug 5 20:21:26 UTC 2022

I don't understand what all the talk is about when discussing whether
it should be up to the compositor or app to set a window's position.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 2:30 PM Daniel Stone <daniel at> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 at 17:21, Igor Korot <ikorot01 at> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 9:20 PM Thiago Macieira <thiago at> wrote:
> > > No, they are about position too. 100,100 on a 1920x1080 resolution is
> about 5%
> > > to the right of the left edge and 10% from the top. 100,100 on
> 3840x2160 is
> > > 2.5% from the left and 5% from the top, on the same monitor. The user
> has a
> > > right to expect the same finger-width position on the screen, relative
> to where
> > > their eyes are looking at.
> >
> > No, they are not.
> > It should be up to the application to decide the coordinate system
> PPI/DPI/etc.
> This is why there is no value in this discussion. You are making
> assertions like this as if they are axiomatic.
> It would be possible to redesign Wayland following the principles you
> have described. No-one is doing this, however. We have carefully
> considered the points you have raised over the past 14 years and
> reached different conclusions. I'm sorry that Wayland is not the
> perfect window system you envisage in your own head, but just
> repeating your same beliefs that the design is fundamentally flawed
> over and over, will not force us to change the design.
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