[Xesam] [people] pimo:Tag vs nao:Tag

[Evgeny Egorochkin]

В сообщении от Пятница 25 сентября 2009 20:07:51 автор Leo Sauermann написал:
> It was Evgeny Egorochkin who said at the right time 25.09.2009 18:43 the
> 
> following words:
> > Basically I think the biggest concern here is interoperability between
> > nao:Tag and pimo:Tag.
> >
> > How can applications that use nao:Tag and pimo:Tag "talk" to each other?
> 
> let the same instance be both a nao:tag and a pimo:Tag.
> 
> but our plan was:
> * nao:Tag is piss-easy, we use it now to get KDE 4.0 off the ground (...
> this we said in ~Oct 2006)
> * pimo:Tag is way cooler because your things in live are tags. We should
> update KDE for this (... uh....)
> 
> so, it will take some time to get there.
> 
> Sebastian Trüg actually worked on some ways to do this - I think.
> 
> did you?

Basically since "cheap pimo:Thingification"[1] is agreed on in principle, I 
believe kde could move to using pimo:Tag anytime.

[1] https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/oscaf/ticket/45


> > В сообщении от Пятница 25 сентября 2009 19:30:58 автор Leo Sauermann 
написал:
> >> as others may be interested in this discussion, I am also including
> >> xesam (= the ontology developers list)
> >>
> >> I was a bit slow to answer, sorry.
> >>
> >> Tomás - what are you programming? do you have a url or a blogpost about
> >> your work?
> >>
> >> nao:Tag is for systems that just use NAO/NIE and are fine with
> >> no-brainer solutions.
> >> a nao:Tag has the semantic meaning of : the tag is a string. its unique.
> >>
> >> pimo:Tag is for systems that want to achieve a highlevel integration of
> >> Addressbooks, Calendars, Websites, etc... into a semantic network.
> >> pimo:Tags are then not only tags, but can be also a pimo:Person - that
> >> is, you can use a person's name to tag something but - surprise - it is
> >> also a person.
> >> now clicking on the person will get more...
> >> a pimo:Tag has the semantic meaning of : the tag is a unique string
> >> which is also a Thing out of the real world which can have more
> >> attributes.
> >>
> >> I also documented this here in the FAQ
> >> https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/oscaf/wiki/PIMO/FAQ#Whatisthedifferenc
> >>ebe tweennao:Tagandpimo:Tag
> >>
> >> best
> >> Leo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It was Tomás Vírseda who said at the right time 12.09.2009 23:50 the
> >>
> >> following words:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm confused about pimo:Tag and nao:Tag classes described in their
> >>> respective ontology. Which is the difference between these two clases?
> >>> I'm reading the ontologies documentation but I can't still figure out
> >>> how they should be used. I'm developing a tagging system in a
> >>> application and I would like to use Nepomuk.
> >>>
> >>> About pimo:Tag description:
> >>> "Tags in the context of PIMO. A marker class for Things that are used
> >>> to categorize documents (or other things). Tags must be a kind of
> >>> Thing and must have a unique label. Documents should not be Tags by
> >>> default."
> >>>
> >>> About nao:Tag description:
> >>> "This class is useful for modelling conventional tagging practices.
> >>> The user can tag resources in conventional ways, automatically
> >>> creating an instance of this tag, which is then related to the
> >>> annotated resource via the nao:hasTag property. For more on tagging as
> >>> annotation see Section 2.3.". I've read this section and the
> >>> explanation is very convincing.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance.
> >>> Kind regards
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Tomás Vírseda
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