The ati petition
hamish at travellingkiwi.com
Sat Sep 4 03:20:56 PDT 2004
Alan Cox wrote:
>On Gwe, 2004-09-03 at 16:23, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>The machine? AMD 2800XP. Biostar M7-NCD-Pro Motherboard. A gig of
>>DDR333 dual channel ram, and an Extacy 9200SE 128 meg card. I
>>certainly ought to be able to run tuxracer.
>9200 3D works in CVS Xorg.
>Their 2D in CVS works up to the very latest PCI Express hardware - which
>I think counts as pretty damned good support.
I'm not sure what the PCI Express hardware is sorry. But anything r3xx
based (Radeon 9600, 9800 etc) doesn't have squat as far as acceleration
goes AFAIK (I'd be grateful... extreemly grateful... If I was wrong...
But unfortunatley, I don't think I am). AT least in open source... And
that's the main problem.
ATI probably THINK they're doing a good job with supporting Unix users
and their fglrx closed source drivers. And for SOME users (OK. The
majority) it probably works quite well. That's desktop people who don't
use ACPI for power management, and who never need to suspend their
Unfortunatly they have IMO missed the point... There is more than one
windowing system (i.e. XOrg & XFree) and although their drivers probably
work (Where they do work) in both systems at the moment, they may not
tomorrow... Plus they work in a manner where the ATI developers decree
they should work. It's hard to belive they even recognise that the
drivers are actually used on laptops for example. Purely because on a
laptop they are not the best shall we say at recovering from
suspending... They also don't work with frame buffers... And I like
200x75 text mode...
if ATI would just release the programming information there'd be any
number of people willing to write GOOD and STABLE drivers that would
work for ALL situations... And if they didn't work, someone (Besides the
original author, who may not even know we have a problem after all)
could fix them. Because all the information would be there...
Their model may work in Windoze, but even there the VENDOR usually does
the drivers... At least as far as IBM laptops go... ATI probably never
even deal with laptops in the windoze world. And thus would lack the
experience required to truely appreciate what's required.
Of course if I'm wrong I'm sorry.... I wish I was & that the ATI drivers
were the best in the world (Because after all I have a laptop with an
M10/rv350 in it). But unless ATI release the INFORMATION for CURRENT
chipsets (Heck the 3xx isn't even state of the art any more, thats the
4xx isn't it?) taht's never going to happen.
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