[Clipart] Status of the uploads to the website
worms invasion
wormsxulla at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 24 06:01:34 PDT 2009
Hello,
Uploads are working again.
Many thanks to michi (Michael) and Victor.
wormsxulla
--- On Mon, 9/21/09, worms invasion <wormsxulla at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: worms invasion <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Clipart] Status of the uploads to the website
> To: "chovynz" <chovynz at gmail.com>, "Alan" <alan at ccnsweb.com>
> Cc: clipart at lists.freedesktop.org
> Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 3:55 AM
> Hi,
>
> I don't know if OCAL is heading of its time, all I know is
> that is has been around for 5 years now, and that it would
> be a pity for the open source community if the project was
> abandonned, for any reason.
>
> I also think that hanging around is sometimes not the best
> way to solve a problem. :-)
>
> I grabbed rejon this morning on IRC, and he promised to do
> something tonight.
>
> He also agreed that a community project can't just depend
> on one person, who can be very busy, so, very soon, the
> volunteers and the developers who are ready to help with
> maintenance and development of the site will have the
> opportunity to be *more* involved.
>
> Thanks, rejon, for your time, we keep our fingers cross for
> tonight :-)
>
> Regards.
>
> --- On Sun, 9/20/09, Alan <alan at ccnsweb.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Alan <alan at ccnsweb.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Clipart] Status of the uploads to the
> website
> > To: "chovynz" <chovynz at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "worms invasion" <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>,
> clipart at lists.freedesktop.org
> > Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 11:33 PM
> > Hang in there everyone.
> >
> > OpenClipart is about 2-3 years ahead of it's time.
> Is
> > it the right
> > idea? Absolutely. Like most things just a little
> > ahead of their time,
> > though, it takes a while for
> technology/software/social
> > climate to get
> > it all together.
> >
> > So take heart and be patient.
> >
> > And recruit, please. Anyone you know who is in a
> > position with time and
> > talent to contribute. University/college students,
> > friends - anyone
> > with a talent and idea and an interest.
> >
> > Get them involved.
> >
> > Treat it like a fun project. Like a puzzle you
> would
> > work in your spare
> > time to get all the pieces together.
> >
> > One little bit at a time. The end picture will be
> > awesome!
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > chovynz wrote:
> > > I'm not the one who can answer your questions.
> > >
> > > And yes, I'm well aware that this mailing list is
> for
> > everyone not
> > > just Librarians. I did not state otherwise. :) I
> agree
> > with all that
> > > you have written.
> > >
> > > However, as I replied, as far as I know (which is
> an
> > educated guess),
> > > only Jon, Michi and Basil(?) can fix this
> particular
> > problem. And they
> > > haven't said anything in reply to the emails
> which
> > I've sent them.
> > >
> > > Someone has dropped the ball, that I can't pick
> up
> > (which I would have
> > > otherwise picked up), and don't know what skills
> are
> > needed, since
> > > communication has effectively stopped. Which is
> sad,
> > because the
> > > potential of OCAL is far more than this *little*
> group
> > that we
> > > currently have.
> > >
> > > I don't know what we are waiting for. I don't
> know
> > what the problems
> > > are, but everything has halted. This is not a
> good
> > situation, and last
> > > time I tried to say something I was told
> -paraphrased
> > "Remember this
> > > is a volunteer thing. Solutions take time." So
> ...
> > Since I can't fix
> > > the problem, and this is a "volunteer thing", I
> > decided to not push
> > > too hard and just wait. I can wait as long as I
> need
> > to.
> > >
> > > If Jon or Michi ends up listening to you, that's
> > great! we can move
> > > forward again. I frankly don't care who fixes
> the
> > problem, as long as
> > > someone does. I can't. Good luck in attracting
> their
> > attention. :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/21/09, worms invasion <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well, thanks :-)
> > >>
> > >> I'm a subscriber to this list for almost 2
> years
> > now, so I do hang around
> > >> and talk occasionally ;-)
> > >>
> > >> This list is not only for librarians, it's
> > actually the only mean Users, ,
> > >> Clipart contributors, Librarians, and
> Developers
> > have to communicate about
> > >> OCAL. That's why it receives messages from
> list
> > subscribers, and also bug
> > >> reports.
> > >>
> > >> As I was saying in my first message on Sept,
> 11th,
> > uploads to OCAL have
> > >> stopped since July 31st.
> > >> Basically, it means that OCAL, which relies
> on
> > users contributions for its
> > >> content, appears dead to both the group of
> Users
> > ("No new cliparts
> > >> uploaded?") and to the Clipart contributors
> > ("where am I going this new
> > >> clipart I made?")
> > >> These two groups are the most numerous
> groups
> > among the Users, Clipart
> > >> contributors, Librarians, and Developers
> groups.
> > >> Another thing is that bug reports have not
> been
> > touched nor assigned.
> > >>
> > >> I do understand that the limited number of
> people
> > who might be able to fix
> > >> the errors are away or busy. On the other
> hand,
> > there have been news posted
> > >> to the main OCAL page since the uploads
> ceased to
> > work, so this means that
> > >> not all are busy all the time or away all
> the
> > time.
> > >>
> > >> There are many other sites presenting
> cliparts to
> > the public on the
> > >> Internet, OCAL is great because it represents
> a
> > community effort to share
> > >> cliparts with the most "open" license. That
> was, I
> > believe, the goal of its
> > >> founders, people from various projects (Ted
> Gould,
> > Bryce Harrignton, Jon
> > >> Philips, among others... from the archive of
> this
> > list, which goes back to
> > >> 2004)
> > >>
> > >> Now, if our site appears unmaintained for a
> long
> > while - and 6 weeks *is* a
> > >> long time on the Internet - , users will
> simply be
> > discouraged from
> > >> visiting, and will switch to another clipart
> site,
> > which might, or might
> > >> not, support the same "cause". We will lose
> the
> > benefits of years of
> > >> contributions and usage, and that will be a
> pity,
> > really.
> > >> We will also lose the potential help of new
> > developers, if
> > >> maintenance/development problems appear
> > unanswered.
> > >>
> > >> So, what could be done? Maybe it would be
> worth to
> > allow more people to be
> > >> involved with the site maintenance? It
> doesn't
> > need to be a dozen people,
> > >> just a few... with the right permissions?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for reading, and I hope, answering
> this
> > concern.
> > >>
> > >> P.S.: I also see nothing new about what we
> call
> > OCAL 2.0... but in my
> > >> understanding, this is less urgent (although
> it is
> > important).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- On Sun, 9/20/09, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> From: chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Clipart] Status of the
> uploads
> > to the website
> > >>> To: "worms invasion" <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
> > >>> Cc: clipart at lists.freedesktop.org
> > >>> Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 6:53
> AM
> > >>> Nope. Just, there's nothing the
> > >>> Librarians can do.
> > >>> There's only a limited number of people
> that
> > can fix the
> > >>> problems
> > >>> server side, and those are busy or away.
> > >>>
> > >>> Just hang in there. When Ocal 2.0 come
> out
> > it'll be
> > >>> fantastic and I'll
> > >>> be pushing it on all my friends for all
> it's
> > worth. (and
> > >>> that is worth
> > >>> very much!)
> > >>>
> > >>> On 9/20/09, worms invasion <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hello.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So... Is OCAL dead?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- On Fri, 9/11/09, worms invasion
> <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
> > >>>>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>> From: worms invasion <wormsxulla at yahoo.com>
> > >>>>> Subject: [Clipart] Status of the
> > uploads to the
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>> website
> > >>>
> > >>>>> To: clipart at lists.freedesktop.org
> > >>>>> Date: Friday, September 11, 2009,
> 6:13
> > PM
> > >>>>> Hello,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I was wondering whether there was
> any
> > news about
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>> the upload
> > >>>
> > >>>>> problem to http://openclipart.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The last upload appearing is
> dated
> > from July,31st
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>> 2009, so
> > >>>
> > >>>>> I guess the upload functionality
> > hasn't been
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>> restored yet?
> > >>>
> > >>>>> We've seen at least two bug
> reports
> > >>>>> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23312
> > >>>>> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23527
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> but nothing in them indicates
> what has
> > been done.
> > >>>>> There is also no assignee to
> these bug
> > reports.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Is anyone in charge of checking
> out
> > the situation,
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>> or
> > >>>
> > >>>>> investigating, or... doing what
> needs
> > to be done,
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>> why it
> > >>>
> > >>>>> broke, etc.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks for any information - it
> would
> > really be a
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>> pity if
> > >>>
> > >>>>> OCAL was dying because no clipart
> can
> > be uploaded
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>> :-)
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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