[CREATE] Code of Conduct

S.Kemter sirko.kemter at gmail.com
Tue Jan 21 22:09:18 PST 2014


Hi,

Louis that is correct.

br gnokii


2014/1/21 Louis Desjardins <louis.desjardins at gmail.com>

> 2014/1/20 S.Kemter <sirko.kemter at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Nope it hasnt, some here on the list wanted to discuss an CoC
>> furthermore, some even wanted to take a vote on it. I feel since days
>> ignored because the discussion went on. The only one who can have a problem
>> with it, is from my point of view is Louis, because he has to take it to
>> PSF an look if they can agree to that solution.
>>
>
> Hi Sirko,
>
> I would like to follow up on your suggestion about the CoC and its variant
> being the measures already in place at the university of Leipzig.
>
> I believe we can expose the situation clearly to the PSF board and let
> them know about the situation.
>
> I apologize for the misundersanting. I missed your point at first but now,
> reading this over and with this email, I understand and fully agree.
> So, correct me if I am wrong, what I understand is we could plead the fact
> that for this year’s LGM we’re going to go by the rules of the university
> of Leipzig, which is our host. So, we’ll ask PSF if being at a German
> university, with its strong social equity laws, and the constant
> in-person presence of the University's "Gleichstellungsbeauftragten"
> staff, will meet their requirements for a CoC in order to get their
> funding.
>
> I am completely comfortable with that and I think it is a fair solution.
> Especially considering the fact that the CoC we would vote and even if we
> picked one that already exists is too short on deadline for it to be
> reviewed by the administrators at the University, also considering that for
> them there would be no point since they already have strong rules and we
> must — as LGM organizers — comply with the rules of our host.
>
> On top of that, we can explain PSF people that the LGM community is going
> to gather at the LGM to discuss that subject and reach a decision for the
> years to come. Basically, from the stand point of PSF, we have 2014 covered
> and we’re preparing 2015 and further.
>
> I put reasonable faith in the process and its positive outcome. I trust
> that people at PSF will lend us a comprehensive ear. Of course, the
> decision is theirs.
>
> I hope I got things right and if anything don’t hesitate to correct me!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Louis
>
>
>>
>> Of course after I spoke with him and we find a way he will get his own
>> page on lgm.org but before I speak with him, I think Louis should look
>> that PSF agrees for that I waited.
>>
>>
>> br gnokii
>>
>>
>> 2014/1/21 Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>
>>
>>> Dear Sirko,
>>>
>>> On 20 January 2014 23:46, Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On 20 January 2014 15:11, Louis Desjardins <louis.desjardins at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Would it be ok if we make the decision with the co-organisers of this
>>> year’s
>>> >> LGM plus the people here who followed the discussion (in silent or
>>> not)?
>>> >
>>> > But clearly its the co-organizers' prerogative to figure out who
>>> > incidents should be escalated to, or not, to put a CoC on the website,
>>> > or not, and if they provide physical items to attendees
>>> > (schedules/name badges/promo bags/etc) to include a copy, or not.
>>> >
>>> > If the bureaucracy of the host means its not possible for the
>>> > co-organizers, that's okay for me, and next year I hope there will be
>>> > one.
>>>
>>> I just realised that its been around a week since your email, and you
>>> didn't yet follow up with some news on what you wrote:
>>>
>>> On 15 January 2014 17:04, S.Kemter <sirko.kemter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > we will not have an ok [on a CoC text] before LGM.
>>>
>>> I think its worth re-iterating this point; there will not be a CoC at
>>> this LGM, not because the organizers don't want one, but because
>>> putting one in place would require more time than is available.
>>>
>>> > What we could do is simple to invite the "Gleichstellungsbeauftragten"
>>> I
>>> > dont know how to translate that titel and if Equality Ombudsman is
>>> right for
>>> > it to watch over us and we can surly ask him to help us for
>>> formulating an
>>> > CoC for later events. I think nobody of us would be that firm as
>>> someone,
>>> > who does nothing else then handle exactly what some here think an CoC
>>> would
>>> > solve.
>>>
>>> Sirko, how has the invitation to the Gleichstellungsbeauftragten fared?
>>>
>>> If they agree to attend, will their presence and how to reach them be
>>> mentioned on the website, and will attendees be notified at the event?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>


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