[LGM] The LGM website

[Camille Bissuel]

Hi all,

I must add I'm not ready either to maintain current infrastructure next
year without ale, as he do most of the work, and I cannot afford to use
more of my time for such tasks.

IMO, whatever tool we install there we be rants about it, and I think we
need do to learn to be happy with what we have now !



On the technical side a geeky and interesting alternative to Wordpress and
Jekyll is DocPad <http://docpad.org/>, but it barely satisfy the OWANCS
needs ;)

Have a nice day/evening/night...
Camille


2014/1/16 Louis Desjardins <louis.desjardins at gmail.com>

> 2014/1/16 ale rimoldi <a.l.e at ideale.ch>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> personally, I'm getting very tired with all those people who are not
>> happy with the tool(s) installed on the LGM server and keep bitching
>> around.
>> (And I'm not happy about the server not working correctly, either).
>>
>>
>> Since it seems that nobody likes the Wordpress that is currently
>> installed on the server,
>
>
> -1
>
> What about OWANCS?
>
> For me, speaking from the point of view of an organiser of LGM, I pretty
> much like most everything that’s available in Wp.
>
> Pros
> Easy to add or edit content even for
> organisers-with-almost-no-computer-skills (further noted as OWANCS) like
> myself.
> Easy to create forms and edit them, and even set the notifications for an
> OWANCS.
> Easy to retrieve data gathered with forms by a simple download to cvs and
> we can even pick the fields we need, and date, for any particular given
> needs, even for an OWANCS!
>
> Wishlist
> It would be great if the Participant list would update itself
> automatically after each addition, in respect with the choice to be shown
> or not from the registrant. At present time I think this is done manually
> or semi-manually.
>
> Cons
> Nothing worth mentioning and certainly nothing that would lead to a
> decision like taking Wp away!
>
> This basically covers most of what’s written below.
>
> Some further comments in between the lines...
>
>
>> we need to remove it before next year's LGM.
>>
>> I'm not ready to maintain the server for another year under the current
>> circumstances.
>>
>>
>> Now, the reason for removing Wordpress are rather simple: it is a
>> blogging tool and nobody feels the need of doing any blogging on the
>> LGM site.
>>
>
> That maybe true today but might change quickly. Plus, WP has other
> advantages.
>
>>
>> And:
>>
>> - Nobody thinks that using WP as a general tool is a good idea, either.
>>
>
> OWANCS do. ;-)
>
>>
>> - Nobody things that using WP for information management is a
>>   good idea.
>
>
>> - The forms plugin installed (Gravity Forms) not only is a
>>   commercial plugin that we should pay for each year, but it's also the
>>   best solution available for WP and is not good enough for us
>>   (no granular access to the forms).
>>
>
> The Gravity Form cost $39 per year, something we can afford.
>
> I am not sure to understand what "granular access" is. I know you can
> select fields to be downloaded but I have a sense that this is not what you
> mean here. Can you tell me what this is?
>
>>
>>
>> So: we clearly have the wrong tool installed.
>>
>
> Not quite wrong!
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Now, the first step for building a solid site is to find out what we
>> need. The second step will be to propose and then choose the tools to be
>> used.
>>
>>
>> For what I know what we need (and mostly somehow already have) is:
>>
>> - A website presenting the LGM (currently the lgm/ wordpress instance)
>>
>> - An information management tool for the LGM (currently the lgm/
>>   WP instance, partially as public, partially as private pages).
>>
>> - A website presenting the next/current LGM (currently the 2014/ wp...
>>   and 2013/ wp, 2012/ wp...).
>>
>> - An information management tool for the specific LGM edition
>>   (currently the mediawiki intance on houz' server).
>>
>> - A form/list editor for gathering the information from the
>>   participants (currently the non free Gravity Forms for Wordpress).
>>
>> - An aggregator of tweets and co. about the LGM.
>>
>>
>> My questions to you are:
>>
>> - Do you know of other needs for the LGM server? (existing needs or nice
>>   to have)
>>
>> - Do you know good tools for meeting those needs?
>>
>> And, on top of it, under certain circumstances, we will have to find a
>> new server for hosting those tools... so if you have any proposition...
>>
>>
>>
>> As a personal note, I'd like to install and maintain one single tool
>> that happens to meet all our needs *or* install several small tools
>> that all match one of the needs.
>> I'd like to avoid installing a tool like Mediawiki, which is somehow
>> the same as Wordpress, but starting from the wiki world instead of the
>> blogosphere. Somehow meeting each of needs, with no clear boundary on
>> what it can and cannot do.
>> ... except if you can convince a majority of LGMers that it's the best
>> tool to match one of our needs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to see a few ideas collected before the LGM, then discuss
>> it in Leipzig and find good solutions for the future of the LGM server.
>>
>>
>> Have a nice evening and sorry for the long mail... I could not write it
>> shorter.
>>
>
> It’s perfect! No worries about lenghty emails... I write some too! :-)
>
> Last thought. I would like to introduce all geek reading this list to this
> minority-with-no-name until today, the OWANCS! :-)
>
> Any tool you guys pick, please be kind to us!
>
> Louis
>
>
>>
>> a.l.e
>>
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